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    The witches say she will be nominated at least once, but they won’t tell me in which category.

    I hope it is for “Destroyer”, but there have been very few cases where a “not projected winner” overcame strong competition as the sole nomination for the film.

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    She deserves the nomination count boost.

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    Frankly, I suspect it’s likelier she misses altogether than nails down double nominations at this point. I do think Supporting Actress is likelier – Destroyer won’t be a commercial success and critics aren’t terribly fond of the film itself.

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    Unless SAG and BAFTA double nominate her (since they share the most Academy member overlap), I’m hesitant about her being nominated for both as well. At least Boy Erased is coming to my area on the 16th; no idea when or if Destroyer will come to Rochester.

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    I am really getting tired of all the negativity around Boy Erased, esp. since I have a gut feeling that most of the people making the comments haven’t seen it yet. I am seeing it on Saturday and looking forward to it immensely. My feeling is that the negativity actually has nothing to do with the actual film but a psychological need to protect the movies and actresses they prefer for nominations.

    I wish Destroyer didn’t have such a late release date. I have a feeling I won’t get to see it until January. It’s one of the biggest question marks for me in the way too crowded Best Actress category.

    I would be shocked if Kidman is not nominated in at least one category. Her career is on a high these days, she is campaigning big time and is well liked and highly regarded.

    I can’t wait for you to see it and pretend it was amazing.

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    Frankly, I suspect it’s likelier she misses altogether than nails down double nominations at this point. I do think Supporting Actress is likelier – Destroyer won’t be a commercial success and critics aren’t terribly fond of the film itself.

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    Why do people keep spreading this urban myth that critics didn’t like Destroyer?

    It’s pushing 90% on Rotten Tomatoes with over 50 reviews counted. It was certified fresh months before it’s actual release.Only in the land of ‘hysterical Oscar prognosticators” can a critical reception that strong be turned into, “critics thought it was shit/mediocre”. It’s either a Best Picture contender or crap. No nuance our middle ground.

    It’s too grim and genre-y to be a realistic Best Pic contender, but any filmmaker on earth would be estactic and relieved with a critical reception that good.

    I guess you can always turn to a highly incomplete metacritic score to justify this ridiculous claim, but even that feels like a spurious claim. It’s in the green at 64 (only a couple of points behind supposed Best Picture Frontrunner Green Book, also in the 60’s), and should almost certainly rise when more metacritic eligible critics review it (like the NY Times Manhola Dargis, who praised Destroyer after TIFF, but has yet to write an official review).

    Certainly, the certified fresh score of Rotten Tomatoes should be used as the primary source (for now) to judge it’s critical reception, which is excellent.

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    I am totally with you there but we can’t deny that the academy has some weird bias towards certain movies. “Destroyer” is a prime example of one of those movies. The movie is going to really struggle with the box office as Annapurna is not very good at scheduling its releases. And think about it: First Man, a movie that seems like it would be a hit, flopped in the box office, while Bohemian Rhapsody – the critically punned movie – is exploding. The normal moviegoer wants to have fun in the movies and Destroyer doesn’t seem like a lot of “fun.” I would go see Destroyer in a second but that’s just me.

    A 64 on MC isn’t that great considering that Colman has a movie currently in the low 90s; Davis, McCarthy and Gaga have movies in the high 80s; and Close has a movie in the high 70s. Of course, there’s also Aparicio with a 95 MC score for Roma. I REALLY want to believe that Kidman will make it, but it’s not looking too good for her.

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    Hmmm…Pete Hammond of Deadline tweeted that Kidman got a “giant standing ovation” at the Hollywood Film awards, and he thinks that bodes well for double nominations.

    Hammond said only one other person got a standing ovation, but didn’t specify whom. Wonder if it was Close…

    http://twitter.com/DeadlinePete/status/1059285590733086720?s=19

    It was Close. Both of them received HUGE standing ovations. And both were hugely praised for their speeches.

    http://twitter.com/DeadlinePete/status/1059279874244792320

    http://twitter.com/DeadlinePete/status/1059280414987022337

     

     

     

     

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    I am totally with you there but we can’t deny that the academy has some weird bias towards certain movies. “Destroyer” is a prime example of one of those movies. The movie is going to really struggle with the box office as Annapurna is not very good at scheduling its releases. And think about it: First Man, a movie that seems like it would be a hit, flopped in the box office, while Bohemian Rhapsody – the critically punned movie – is exploding. The normal moviegoer wants to have fun in the movies and Destroyer doesn’t seem like a lot of “fun.” I would go see Destroyer in a second but that’s just me.

    A 64 on MC isn’t that great considering that Colman has a movie currently in the low 90s; Davis, McCarthy and Gaga have movies in the high 80s; and Close has a movie in the high 70s. Of course, there’s also Aparicio with a 95 MC score for Roma. I REALLY want to believe that Kidman will make it, but it’s not looking too good for her.

    The point is the metacritic score is too incomplete to use against the movie right now, because you won’t get the majority of reviews on metacritic till it’s close to release. Rotten Tomatoes is a more accurate representation of it’s critical reception, as far more RT eligible critics have reviewed the movie than metacritic critics. It’s not rocket science. Wait until December till you start using meacritic over RT. It could easily rise to high 70’s or more, just as people expect Green Book to rise when it has more metacritic reviews. Ignoring the far more complete and certified RT score for the current meetacritic score is dishonest.

    Also, Box Office does not matter for Destroyer. Historically, movies released that late don’t get judged on box office. Destroyer simply needs to be seen. Whether through industry screenings (SAG, AMPAS etc) or screeners.

    Box office would be more an issue if it was released this month or even early next month. By the time Destroyer gets a wide release on Janurary 25th, we’ll be heavily into a lot of nomination processes for various awards.

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    It was Close. Both of them received HUGE standing ovations. And both were hugely praised for their speeches.

    http://twitter.com/DeadlinePete/status/1059279874244792320

    http://twitter.com/DeadlinePete/status/1059280414987022337

    Thought as much (that it would be Close). Thanks for the confirmation.

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    Who here has actually seen Destroyer? It’s easy to dismiss a movie without even seeing it.

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    I hope so. She is almost a legend.

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    Bee
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    She’s not getting nominated for either.

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    She’s not getting nominated for either.

    Definitely a possibility, but I would NEVER underestimate Kidman. Her versatility and genuine love within the industry can do her wonders. Plus, she is absolutely incredible in whatever she’s in, and we all know the Academy loves a transformative performance. Just take a look at what she won for in “The Hours”! I’m not saying she couldn’t be snubbed,  but thats a very blunt take on a veteran actress.

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    Who here has actually seen Destroyer? It’s easy to dismiss a movie without even seeing it.

    I think a lot of people who are predicting Kidman to not be nominated for Destroyer are the ones who are going to be asking that very question to the members of the Actor’s Branch come nomination time. I think Kidman in Destroyer has to be seen by enough people to have a chance. It’s not one of those where people will remember to just write her name in even if they hadn’t actually seen the movie.

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